--- title: "Podcast ‘Entscheider:Inside’ with JUNE’s CEO Björn Frommer" description: "In this episode of Entscheider:Inside, Björn Frommer shares a deeply personal reflection on career change, fear, and reinvention." url: https://www.june.tech/newsroom/podcast-entscheiderinside language: en published: 2025-10-15 --- [Newsroom](https://www.june.tech/newsroom) Podcast # Podcast ‘Entscheider:Inside’ with JUNE’s CEO Björn Frommer 15 October 2025 1 min read In this episode of Entscheider:Inside, Björn Frommer shares a deeply personal reflection on career change, fear, and reinvention. After more than 20 years working as a lawyer, he talks about the decision to leave behind professional security and start over in his late forties as the founder of an AI and legal tech company. The conversation explores the often uncomfortable reality behind major life decisions: real, paralyzing fear; courage that is sometimes only recognizable in hindsight; and the question of why it can be worth leaving familiar paths even when the outcome is uncertain. Rather than framing security as a goal, the episode challenges the idea that stability is always desirable and highlights how it can sometimes mask fear of change. The podcast offers an honest and motivating perspective for anyone wondering whether it is “too late” to begin again — and shows how taking a risk can lead to renewed purpose, energy, and a renewed sense of being fully alive. [Listen on YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz5dR6CEx00) [Listen on Spotify](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2yc72O89T3or3eY3fWNXaa?si=ogpF2j6aQzmztaC5ZJ9Q1A&nd=1&dlsi=42f3a66cf8ce4c3b) [Listen on Apple Podcasts](https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/mit-ende-40-eine-ai-firma-gr%C3%BCnden-ceo-bj%C3%B6rn-frommer/id1834739107?i=1000728216964) ## More podcasts ### [Podcast ‘Legal Tech & Legal KI’ with JUNE’s CEO Björn Frommer](https://www.june.tech/newsroom/podcast-legal-tech-legal-ki-with-junes-ceo-bjorn-frommer) *Podcast 15 Jan 2025* – In this podcast episode, JUNE is presented in the context of complex and demanding legal environments. ### [Podcast ‘Rechtsgespräch’ with JUNE’s CEO Björn Frommer](https://www.june.tech/newsroom/podcast-bjorn-frommer) *Podcast 4 Jul 2024* – In this podcast episode on innovation in law firms and legal departments, JUNE CEO Björn Frommer talks about the goal with which JUNE was founded. ### [Podcast HY features JUNE’s CEO Björn Frommer](https://www.june.tech/newsroom/podcast-hy-bjorn-frommer) *Podcast 14 May 2024* – In the hy podcast, Björn Frommer talks about how legal tech is revolutionizing the legal system. ## See JUNE run your process Bring a real workflow. We’ll show you how JUNE would take it from intake to resolution – and tell you honestly if it isn’t a fit. [Book a demo](https://www.june.tech/demo) [How JUNE works](https://www.june.tech/platform)